Art Of Boring

In this episode, we discuss key trends and positioning in credit markets with Brian Carney, lead portfolio manager of the Mawer global credit opportunities strategy. We touch on the year’s strong performance driven by tighter spreads, higher yields, and emerging risks such as low risk premiums and the U.S. election. Topics include corporate issuance, fallen angels, and public-private credit convergence. Emphasizing capital preservation, Brian highlights portfolio positioning in high-quality, short-duration securities, such as North American bank bonds, while avoiding high-yield exposure. Key Takeaways: Credit markets have performed well this year, driven by tighter spreads and higher benchmark yields, but risk premiums are historically low. Brian suggests investors prioritize capital preservation over chasing yield, avoiding high-yield bonds and long-dated credit. Post-U.S. election, vigilance is key amid potential policy-driven market shifts. Trends in the past quarter include fallen angels, commercial rea

In this episode, we discuss the global equity strategy with Christian Deckart, chief investment officer and portfolio manager at Mawer. Christian stresses managing absolute risk over relative risk for better long-term outcomes and details Mawer’s approach to risk management, focusing on decision-making, portfolio risks, and external factors such as government debt and rising rates. He also discusses adapting to AI trends, preferring companies leveraging AI applications over infrastructure investments. He emphasizes maintaining focus on fundamentals amid evolving global and technological landscapes. Key Takeaways: Effective risk management begins with a sound decision-making culture, clear accountability, and thorough evaluation of securities, portfolios, and systemic exposures to avoid unintended biases. Market and portfolio vulnerabilities include rising government debt, interest rate shocks, hidden real estate losses, over-specialized economies, and investor psychology driven by greed and fear. Disciplined

In this episode, we discuss market insights with two representatives from the trading desk: Rita Tien, who trades the Americas from Toronto, and Peter Dmytruk, who trades Asia from Singapore. Rita and Peter highlight the complexities of trading, emphasizing the importance of regional differences and the role of the trading desk in executing investment decisions. They discuss the impact of the Japanese carry trade, the shift to T+1 settlement cycles in the U.S. and Canada, and the influence of ETFs and retail investors on market volatility. They also touch on the role of multi-strategy hedge funds and the challenges of managing market risks. The conversation underscores the need for long-term investment strategies and the importance of understanding market structures and dynamics. Key Takeaways: The trading desk plays a critical role in executing investment decisions effectively, navigating market nuances and regional differences. Market events like U.S. elections and Fed rate decisions significantly impact m

In this episode, Mawer portfolio managers and analysts discuss what they fundamentally look for in a bank as an investment. Specifically, how they view banks and the industry trends, as well as local dynamics, and ultimately what makes each of these businesses both unique and attractive. David Ragan discusses Scandinavian banks, highlighting Handelsbanken's smart lending and DNB's stability. Josh Samuel analyzes DBS in Singapore, emphasizing its low cost of funds and high ROE. Grayson Witcher focuses on J.P. Morgan in the U.S., noting its strong management and unique financial assets, while Alex Romaines examines First Citizens Bank in the U.S., which capitalized on market turmoil. Mark Rutherford covers Canadian banks, noting their conservative strategies and high ROE. Siying Li discusses HDFC Bank in India, and Asim Hussain explores Mitsubishi UFJ in Japan, emphasizing their unique upward-sloping yield curve. Key Takeaways: The ideal bank investment is stable, lends to reliable clients, and operates in a

In this episode, Peter Lampert, lead portfolio manager of the International Equity Strategy, discusses the recent Chinese stimulus and its effects on emerging markets. He highlights key long-term risks in China, including weak sentiment, regulatory challenges, and geopolitical tensions, while emphasizing the potential of companies like Tencent and Tencent Music. The conversation also covers Turkey's Bim, a discount retailer thriving amid economic uncertainty. Peter explains how the portfolio's success stems from stock selection, especially with stealth performers like Vietnam’s FPT and Taiwan’s IGS, and the importance of balancing macro risks with company-specific growth potential.   Key Takeaways:   •China's recent stimulus signals a shift from restrictive policies to boosting economic growth, leveraging the U.S. Fed's easing cycle to inject liquidity and stabilize the economy. •The stimulus could mitigate three key challenges: weak consumer sentiment, regulatory uncertainty, and geopolitical risks. While lo

In this episode, Steven Visscher, lead manager of the balanced strategies, discusses the impact of rising interest rates and inflation on the balanced portfolio in recent years, Mawer’s disciplined and collaborative approach to portfolio construction, and the importance of having a long-term perspective. He spoke about recent changes and additions to the balanced portfolio and provided an update on the performance of the balanced portfolio thus far in 2024. Key Takeaways: Over the last four years, interest rates and inflation have had the most significant impact on the capital markets and the performance of the balanced strategies. Following a surge of inflation in 2022, central banks aggressively hiked rates, which led to the first meaningful loss in a balanced strategy since 2008. After being called into question in 2022, 60/40 portfolios bounced back in 2023 and 2024 following positive fixed income returns, helping support the overall balanced strategy. So far, the market recovery has been led by a narro

Portfolio Manager Crista Caughlin discusses the economy and factors that drove markets in the third quarter of 2024. Key points from this episode: In the third quarter, most central banks either continued cutting rates – like the European Central Bank and the Bank of Canada – or started cutting rates – like the U.S. Federal Reserve.  Inflation risks have diminished and downside risks to growth and employment have increased, so central banks are responding with easier policy. Crista believes the Bank of Canada will continue to make 25 basis point cuts at future meetings, but a 50-basis point cut is potentially on the table thanks to the Fed’s more aggressive cut. Because central banks are easing policy and the market expects them to continue to do so, the yield curve has started to normalize. All else equal, a faster, more aggressive central bank reduces the probability of a recession. The third quarter was a Goldilocks scenario. Growth was weak enough to allow central banks to ease policy, which is really go

In this episode, Peter Lampert, lead portfolio manager of the International Equity Strategy, provides insights on the team’s investment process, the state of the portfolio, and the main drivers that are currently having an outsized impact on performance, namely, semiconductors, obesity medicines, and defense companies. He details his team’s rigorous approach to evaluating management teams from both a quantitative and qualitative standpoint, providing an in-depth example of Hitachi. The conversation concludes with a brief discussion of the current macro environment. Key Takeaways: As enthusiasm surrounding artificial intelligence continues to grow, semiconductor companies have strong competitive advantages and dominant market share in their niche industries. According to the team’s DCF model, the long-term growth rates of companies like TSCM have increased, so they have trimmed back some positions to manage risks. With Novo Nordisk leading the way, the growing market for obesity drugs is expected to become th

In this episode, Grayson Witcher, the lead manager of the U.S. Equity Strategy, discusses the key drivers currently impacting the U.S. economy, including inflation, interest rates, artificial intelligence, and the upcoming presidential election. He emphasizes the importance of diversification and avoiding sharp edges—particularly during an election year. Grayson outlines the importance of and reasoning for his team’s practice of monitoring company management changes in real-time and the value of investing in companies with strong leadership. Key Takeaways: The three big themes driving the U.S. market over the past six months are interest rates and inflation, artificial intelligence, and the election. While food, energy, and goods inflation has fallen, service inflation is proving to be a bit stickier, as it entails things like car insurance, rent, and medical services. Wage inflation has also remained relatively strong. With artificial intelligence, there is no denying the initial hype and surrounding succe

In this episode of the podcast, credit analyst Curtis Elkington provides a comprehensive overview of the $50 trillion global commercial real estate market. He covers the current headwinds facing various property sectors, such as pandemic-induced challenges in the office sector and touches on the surprising resilience of the retail segment. Elkington sheds light on the complexities of the commercial mortgage-backed securities market and details the credit analysis process his team uses to evaluate potential investments with examples. Key points from this episode: • Over the past four years, commercial real estate as an asset class has faced potentially the most significant of headwinds, most notably the pandemic and the rise in interest rates.  • While the pandemic had a different impact on each property sector within commercial real estate, higher rates had a much more uniform impact across the various industries. • The overall size of the commercial real estate market, which includes multifamily, office, ret

In this episode, Crista Caughlin, lead Portfolio Manager of the Canadian Bond Strategy, and Brian Carney, lead Portfolio Manager of the Global Credit Opportunities Strategy, provide their thoughts on recent economic data releases, a shift in central bank language, and recent market volatility. They delve into new issuance activity in the U.S. and Canada, widening spreads in the investment-grade and high-yield markets, and current portfolio positioning. The conversation concludes with an update on the growth and expansion of Mawer’s fixed income team. Key points from this episode: Central banks have shifted their focus from solely targeting inflation to balancing inflation and growth risks, leading to the start of a global easing cycle.  Recession fears have increased due to weakening economic data, such as falling PMIs, rising unemployment, and weak growth, causing volatility in markets. It remains to be seen if recent volatility is just a pocket or something more material. If growth remains robust, it's lik

In this episode of the podcast, Mark Rutherford, Co-Manager of the Canadian large-cap equity strategy, discusses the current investment landscape in Canada, highlighting the wide dispersion in sector performance and the impact of central bank policies. He delves into the long-term theme of the global energy transition and its far-reaching effects on various market sectors in Canada. Insights into insurance and banking sector performance are provided, as well as examples of specific portfolio holdings within the Canadian equity strategy. Key points from this episode: On the surface, healthy and attractive returns can be found across equity markets in Canada. However, there is quite a bit of dispersion under the surface. Year to date, top-performing sectors include energy and materials – which have been the top performers for a few years now – while telecoms, real estate, and some utility stocks are lagging the market. One longer-term theme that is top of mind, both for Canada and numerous countries around th

In this episode, Portfolio Manager Manar Hassan-Agha discusses how the Global Equity Team navigates an exuberant market environment while staying true to Mawer’s disciplined investment approach. He delves into the potential impacts of emerging trends, namely artificial intelligence (AI), and provides examples of the team’s measured approach to evaluating the hype and sustainability of these trends. He emphasizes the value of temperament, alignment, and identifying mispriced high-quality companies. Key points from this episode: When considering potential errors of omission, it's a delicate balance between learning and improving while also ensuring you're not learning the wrong things. It's a matrix of good-bad decisions and good-bad outcomes. A deep dive on XP A deep dive on Robert Half We tend to overestimate the effects of new technology in the short term but underestimate them in the long run [Roy Amara], which could potentially apply to the current AI hype. The asymmetry today, in our mind, around AI hyp

Portfolio Manager Crista Caughlin discusses the economy and factors that drove markets in the second quarter of 2024. Key points from this episode: Because inflation is easing at a gradual pace, central banks with likely be cutting rates gradually. We are at the end of a global tightening cycle and starting to see countries tweak their policies to better fit their domestic markets, but there is not and likely won’t be, a material divergence in the path forward among central banks. The yield curve has been inverted for almost two years, which is longer than average. However, it's not the longest inversion on record. In the late 80s, the yield curve remained inverted for over two and a half years before a recession. In continuation of the first quarter, equity markets did quite well again, with most reaching new highs during the quarter. The strength was primarily driven by a narrow segment of the market, notably technology. Host: Kevin Minas, CFA, MBA, CAIA, Institutional Portfolio Manager Guest: Crista Cau

In this episode, Portfolio Manager Jeff Mo makes the case for investing in U.S. mid-cap equities, highlighting the country’s strong business environment, large domestic market, and GDP growth. He discusses current market trends, including artificial intelligence, and his team’s risk management evaluation, especially with a pivotal U.S. election looming on the horizon.   Key points from this episode: The U.S. is an attractive market for investing due to its strong rule of law, business environment, and large domestic market. Mid-caps are an investing sweet spot. While smaller companies struggle to gain competitive advantages, mid-caps have similar competitive advantages as large caps but with much more attractive growth profiles. There is one dominant theme right now in the market, which is artificial intelligence and anything related to that, all the way down to companies that are building HVAC systems for data centers. With risks like elections, the team goes through the portfolio company by company to eval

In this episode, Portfolio Manager Jeff Mo discusses common behavioral biases that can hinder clear sell decisions, and the tools, such as checklists and trigger points, that can help slow down emotional thinking. He provides examples of companies that he and his team properly exited based on changing fundamentals as well as those they may have held onto for a bit too long, proving the power of the endowment bias. Key points from this episode: Mawer’s sell discipline mirrors the inverse of its buy criteria: wealth creation, management quality, and discount to intrinsic value. The endowment bias makes it difficult to sell stocks you already own; try to always consider your holdings, and don't get married to them. Valuation is not the most important plank of Mawer’s sell discipline framework. Wealth creation and excellent management teams come first. While some believe the worst sell misses are the ones that have gone down considerably, Jeff believes the worst ones are actually the ones that go nowhere. It is

In this episode, we explore the growing electricity demands of data centers stemming from artificial intelligence (AI) with Chris Silvestre, Analyst on the U.S. Equity Team. He shares insights from a recent research trip visiting data centers in Northern Virginia—the data center capital of the world—and discusses challenges around meeting demands given constraints of land availability, energy generation and transmission, and the significantly increased power demands required to develop large language models.   Key points from this episode:   • Electricity demand in the U.S. has been relatively flat for a decade but is expected to increase 25% by 2050 due to electrification, ESG goals, and data center expansion to meet AI demand. • For the same footprint and the same data center, you need 10 times more power for AI workloads than you did for the old-style data centers. • Data centers cluster organically in hubs, such as Northern Virginia, to minimize data transfer costs, but this clustering strains power infra

Portfolio Manager Karan Phadke discusses his views on the global markets and the performance of the global small-cap portfolio. He illustrates how businesses are adapting to and utilizing artificial intelligence (AI), highlighting the difference between the value-added reseller and IT consultant business models. Two portfolio holdings, CBIZ and Convatec, are discussed to demonstrate the team's focus on well-run, resilient companies that are trading at reasonable valuations. Key points from this episode: The U.S. remains a strong outperformer, while Europe continues to see more sluggish growth. Current portfolio strengths include resilient U.S. companies, particularly in the professional employer organization (PEO) space with companies that provide outsourced HR functions. AI is impacting businesses in three main areas: hardware, software, and services. The team focuses on services, which is comprised of companies that help their clients acquire and integrate the hardware and software to use AI effectively.

In this episode, Portfolio Manager Colin Wong shares strategic insights on disruptive technologies and recent adjustments in the U.S. equity portfolio. Colin discusses how his team navigates market exuberance, consensus risks, and economic ebbs and flows with a focus on resilient returns. Through compelling examples, Colin provides actionable insights on benefitting from innovation without betting the farm on a single theme. Key points from this episode: The three main sources of stock market return are earnings per share growth, multiple expansion, and dividends. Similar to the Internet in the late 90s/early 2000s, artificial intelligence (AI) has the potential to transform almost every industry and sector. However, some companies are currently only using AI for various smaller tasks, such as answering simple customer queries, while others have fully embedded AI into their products. The U.S. equity team invests in companies with profitable existing businesses that are also investing in the future, namely A

Portfolio Manager Wen Cheong debunks the perceived challenges of investing in the emerging market space, highlighting his team’s concentrated approach and candour. He details how his focus on best-in-class management and passion for identifying attractive valuations has powered returns.   Key points from this episode:   • Small-cap companies are a pond with fewer rocks; opportunities can be found in steady, established businesses with competitive advantages. • The slump in semiconductor demand in 2023 was primarily driven by a normalization in post-pandemic demand and macro challenges leading to an inventory de-stocking cycle. • The EM team makes decisions for the portfolio entirely on a bottom-up basis with a slight macro overlay. • Even in areas with geopolitical uncertainty, opportunities can be found in well-run, high-quality companies with attractive valuations. • The emerging markets space remains full of diverse opportunities for those willing to do the deep dive.   Host: Rob Campbell, CFA, Institution