The Way Out Podcast

In this rendition of The Way Out we have an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, drug counselor, and podcaster Carl Fessenden. Carl has had the opportunity to work with some of the top professionals in the mental health field and has helped hundreds of people overcome addiction in his work as a counselor and now he’s expanding his impact on the recovery community through his new podcast The Drunken Worm Podcast. Carl shares his recovery journey to this point with us with a unique blend of candor and hilarity, and all along the way we get a veritable cornucopia of spiritual and recovery truth reinforcing that if you’re willing to do the hard work a worthwhile life in recovery is not just possible it’s 100 percent worth it so Listen Up. Connect with Carl: https://thedrunkenwormpodcast.com/contact-the-host Website: wwwthedrunkenwormpodcast.com Patreon: https://thedrunkenwormpodcast.com/subscribe How to listen: https://thedrunkenwormpodcast.com/the-podcast Shop: https://the-drunken-worm-podcas

In this edition of the extravaganza otherwise known as The Way Out Podcast intrepid and nothing short of spectacular Co-Host Jason interviews Bonafede Recovery powerhouse Nadine Machkovech, who’s on a mission to change the world by igniting change and shining her light in a universe often filled with darkness. She has graced the TEDx stage, was profiled in Forbes, and received national survivor advocate recognition from the National Safety Council. She is dedicated to building a life centered around self-care, service, and reconnecting others to their greater purpose in life. Nadine shares her story, speaks her truth and Recovers Out Loud with us while sharing a message that meaningful and enduring recovery is not just possible it’s absolutely worth it so listen up. Book Recommendation: Rising Strong by Brene Brown https://www.amazon.com/Rising-Strong-Ability-Transforms-Parent/dp/081298580X Song that symbolizes recovery: Second Chance by Shinedown https://youtu.be/WbsDPbr8qoM Best piece of advice: " It's your

In this rendition of The Way Out my super-star co-host Jason has an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, Tori Volk. This conversation with Tori Volk will indeed resonate with anyone, but especially with all you mothers out there in Way Out Podcast Land. It’s challenging enough facing co-occurring disorders, but when you add in some complicated parenting issues, it's truly a miracle to get through it clean and sober! Tori shares her journey to and through recovery with us to this point, and without question Tori’s determination and perseverance is sure to inspire anyone who’s already in, or contemplating recovery so listen up. Contact Tori: hefta7@gmail.com Recovery Literature (Quit Lit) Recommendations: Codependents' Guide to the Twelve Steps: Beattie, Melody: 9780671762278: Amazon.com: Books Destination Joy: Moving Beyond Fear. Loss, and Trauma in Recovery.: Larsen, Earnie: 9781592850372: Amazon.com: Books Song that symbolizes Tori's recovery: Sia - Footprints (Audio) - YouTube (c) 2021 T

In this edition of The Way Out we’ve got a stellar interview with person in long term recovery, entrepreneur, author, and gifted storyteller, Dino Miliotis. A self-made millionaire twice over, Dino shares his journey to and through recovery this point with a frankness and candor that is as disarming as it is enlightening. Dino takes us on the rollercoaster ride of his entrepreneurial successes and the material rewards that came along with it along with the pernicious, progressive and ultimately all-consuming nature of his alcohol and drug abuse which led to nothing short of a physical, emotional and mental crisis that caused Dino to make a fateful and vital decision – to walk away from his billion dollar enterprise and ask for help with all of the humility and willingness of a truly desperate man and it paid off in a truly spectacular way. We discuss Dino’s recovery, success, entrepreneurialism, the incredibly important idea of bad habit displacement, where we replace negative behaviors with positive and the

In this edition of The Way Out we have recovery podcaster, and person in long term recovery Shane Ramer of That Sober Guy Podcast. I recently had the honor and privilege to share my story on Shane’s podcast and I couldn’t be more grateful to have had the opportunity to welcome Shane to The Way Out Podcast family to share his remarkable story and the spiritual and recovery truth embodied in it, with us. I’m more convinced than ever that people we don’t yet know aren’t strangers but friends we haven’t met yet, especially in the Recovery community. Indeed, Shane and I share much in common in and out of the realm of Recovery, so much so we’re very much like brothers from another mother! Shane and I do our level best to Recover Out Loud as we talk music, coming of age in the 90’s, our mutual love of walking with our Recovery dogs, the journey to recovery and the serendipity of recording this installment of The Way Out Podcast on the precise date of Shane’s 8 year sobriety anniversary so Listen Up. That Sober Guy P

This week the world’s best recovery podcast co-host Jason has a powerful interview with person in long term recovery, Wesley Verry. Wes talks about the utter unmanageability and insanity of his addictions, an insanity that also manifested in his relationships, which led him to be finally broken enough to stop talking and start listening to the solutions he was hearing in the rooms of 12-Step recovery. His detailed accounts of his journey are emotionally charged and indeed extremely relatable. Ultimately, Wes’s story is a true testament to the power of 12 step recovery to break the cycle of alcohol or drug addiction in anyone's life so listen up. Contact Wes @ wesleyadam1311@gmail.com Book recommendations: The Big Book of Alcoholics Anonymous https://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/read-the-big-book-and-twelve-steps-and-twelve-traditions Daily Reflections https://www.aa.org/pages/en_US/daily-reflection Song that symbolizes recovery to Wes- Hero by Skillet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y9x2CHQClTU (c) 2021 The Way Ou

In this rendition of The Way Out, we have a stellar interview with person in long term recovery, recovery coach, and Phoenix facilitator, Myles Sandoval. Author Johann Hari is credited with coining the phrase “The opposite of addiction isn’t sobriety. It’s connection.” This idea embodies the impetus behind The Phoenix, which is a non-profit organization with the sole purpose to build a sober active community that fuels resilience and harnesses the transformational power of connection so that together participants rise, recover, and live. Often one of the greatest fears folks have prior to, or upon entering recovery is that living sober will be devoid of joy and we won’t have fun in sobriety. Myles proves this unequivocally false as a participant in The Phoenix community, where she creates meaningful connections with others in recovery through shared interests and activities like Yoga, CrossFit, Meditation, Mindfulness and now as the facilitator of the Phoenix group Role for Recovery where Myles integrates two

In this rendition of The Way Out our recovery co-host with the most Jason has a fantastic interview with Eric Schulz, and in this episode, Jason and Eric had quite the happy accident! After Jason and Eric rescheduled once, they got to celebrate Eric’s one year milestone on his actual clean date! If that isn’t a Higher Power Moment, I don’t know what is. Eric shares his journey with us and all the while Jason and Eric cover so many profoundly helpful topics and share a lot of practical tools that can help anyone find a way out of despair and hopelessness, so listen up. Contact Eric on Facebook- https://www.facebook.com/eric.schulz.37669 Song that symbolizes Eric's recovery- Luven Me by Nelly https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nelly+luven+me+lyrics Book recommendation- 24 hours a day (c) 2021 The Way Out Podcast | All Rights Reserved Theme Music: “all clear” (https://ketsa.uk/browse-music/) by Ketsa (https://ketsa.uk)  licensed under CC BY-NC-ND  4.0(https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-n

In this edition of The Way Out we have a stellar interview with Clinical Psychiatrist, Addiction Medicine Specialist and Bio Ethicist Dr. Carl Erik Fisher. As a person in long term recovery himself along with his clinical and scholarly work, Carl brings a unique perspective to the treatment of addiction, and the positive change that occurs in recovery. Easily one of the most enlightening and instructive ideas forwarded by Dr. Fisher is the concept that recovery can be thought of and defined as any positive change in one’s life, which affords us the freedom to take the transformational power of the tools contained within our chosen recovery pathway and apply them broadly across any or all areas of our lives to affect constructive improvement. Recovery, in its purest form is a holistic wellness journey and we don’t have to limit it to one unhealthy habit, or just one addiction. Applying our recovery process that worked for a drug or alcohol addiction can work for addictive behaviors and even for behaviors and n

In this rendition of The Way Out our steadfast recovery Co-Host Jason’s got a magnificent interview with person in long term recovery and Author, Timothy Clancy who shares with us his road to Sobriety. From rock bottom to ten years of continuous sobriety and counting, Timothy’s journey to and through recovery to this point has been difficult at times, yet exceedingly rewarding at the same time. As you’ll come to learn, Timothy lives with Epilepsy, which has meant he’s spent time in a coma and undergone two brain surgeries. Without question Timothy walks his talk, which in addition to writing his book The Road to Sobriety, is personified by his decision to leave a lucrative job in the financial industry at Goldman Sachs to become an Independent Cognitive Behavioral Therapy, or CBT counselor helping people who struggle with self-destructive behavior, substance abuse, eating disorders and more. Timothy talks about the sacrifices he has made in order to fulfill his purpose, helping others and giving back! For Tim

In this edition of The Way Out Recovery Coach, Entrepreneur, and person in long term recovery Kylie Butler comes to us from Bali to share her journey to and through recovery to this point with a sagacity and intuitiveness that is at once unmistakably authentic and enlightening. Her knock-down drag-out bout with alcoholism is rife with the hallmarks of a classic battle with addiction, not the least of which was trauma and a heavy dose of denial, which as most of us know, doesn’t FEEL like denial when we’re in it. Her recovery journey is rooted in the 12-Steps infused with a distinctly Buddhist set of principles and practices which very much focuses on living in a way that centers and prioritizes acceptance and letting go of that which causes us to struggle. For Kylie, recovery was first a process of addition by subtraction. Eliminate the alcohol, and then begin practices that allow her to continue to let go of the thoughts, attitudes, and behaviors that cause suffering while at the same time increasing serenit

This week our intrepid co-host Jason has an incredibly entertaining and indeed inspiring interview with Cincinnati radio DJ, host and creator of the wildly popular Tragedy to Triumph podcast, and person in long term recovery, Aaron Laine. Aaron shares openly about his struggle with alcoholism and addiction, subsequent recovery, and what life is like now flourishing in recovery as he uses his God given gifts to help spread the message that rewarding and enduring recovery is possible. To that end, to say that Aaron is active in the Recovery community would be a drastic understatement, from Radio to TV to event hosting – Aaron’s definitely making a difference for those who still suffer with addiction and alcoholism. Aaron’s been an inspiration Jason and to countless others, and you can now officially count me in the official/unofficial Aaron Laine Fan Club, and dare I predict you too may wind up a fan of Aaron’s after listening to what amounts to be an incredible discussion between to recovery powerhouses. Jason

In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got a Way Out Podcast first with Jason A, who appeared on our very first episode way back in March of 2016 and is the only person we’ve interviewed more than once, and as you’ll learn for very good reason. Much has happened in the span of that 5 plus years and 250 episodes later in the evolution of this podcast as you’ll discover if you dare to venture back to our opening episode featuring Jason and compare it to our most recent offerings. His story is truly inspiring and also a work in progress, as is this podcast. Much has been learned since and indeed the same is true in Jason’s journey to and through recovery to this point. Jason shares candidly about his struggles with relapse which ultimately led to liver failure, and quite literally ending up accepting his condition was terminal and death was extremely near. In what would amount to be a miracle in getting approved for a transplant, Jason shares his transplant journey and what life is like today post-transplant thr

In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got an incredibly inspiring and relatable interview with person in long term recovery, and the one and only Sober Yoga Girl, Alex McRobert AKA Alex McRobs for those of you who are social media inclined. Alex, a self-proclaimed and quintessential party girl since high school, shares her journey to and through sobriety to this point, which included addressing her mental health in addition to her true reckoning with her relationship alcohol, which over time turned from relatively harmless and consequence free partying to a progressive and indeed destructive force in her life. The instrumental move for Alex was joining one year no beer, a community of people who were actively working on eliminating alcohol from their lives.  This is where the magic happened, where Alex began to hear the recovery and sobriety journeys of those who have gone down the path before her and of those who were starting that journey alongside her. What started out as a 28-day sobriety goal, turn

In this edition of The Way Out our magnificent recovery co-host Jason has an outstanding interview with person in long term recovery, Katie Schwartz. Katie shares with us about her unresolved trauma and how it has hindered her attempts at recovery. No doubt many of us can identify with the pain and trauma caused as a result of the many forms that parental abandonment can take. The hit on our self-worth, and the often-subconscious obsession for validation from people can indeed set us on a crash course and headlong into addiction, alcoholism, and chaos. After multiple relapses Katie has never given up the fight for meaningful and enduring recovery, and when she was truly ready for help, help came to her in a big way. Doing whatever it took to recover for Katie meant treatment, working the 12-Steps and connecting to a Higher Power, and as a result Katie recently decided to start sharing her story and realized it has indeed activated her powers! So Listen Up as Katie Recovers Out Loud. Contact Katie at katie80sc

In this rendition of The way Out our beloved co-host Jason’s got a whopper of an interview with person in long term recovery Crystal Hill Hover, who is also a mother, wife, owner of 5 sober homes and a recovery wellness center and Gym and if that wasn’t enough, she just earned her Master’s Degree to boot. Crystal's story is extremely inspiring to say the least. She battled against a myriad of personal demons to achieve enduring sobriety and personal freedom - including addiction, an eating disorder, criminal thinking as well as an array of mental health issues. For Crystal it wasn’t until she landed in prison and subsequent boot camp and follow-on treatment that she was truly able to face her problems head on and ultimately find God, that true recovery began to take hold. Today she has an MBA and is doing amazing things to help and support the recovery community! You're definitely going to want to learn more, so listen up. Best piece of advice: See disruptions as opportunities Book Recommendations: Strengths

In this rendition of The Way Out we’ve got a superbly relatable and edifying interview with person in long term recovery and personal trainer turned transformational life coach who specializes in helping people overcome addiction and emotional trauma – Alex Bales. His mission? To help people effortlessly evolve to create a life they love again full of health and joy. Alex’s journey to and through recovery to this point is marked by painful experiences combined with a feeling of being different than everyone else in his early life, which set the stage for addiction and alcoholism to make their debut in early adulthood, a scenario oh so many of us know firsthand. Alex’s journey to recovery, like many of us, was not linear and indeed was marked by setbacks, yet what matters most is Alex truly surrendered and got honest about the reality of his addiction and alcoholism, and equally as important is he genuinely wanted and asked for help to start to truly recover. A recovery and wellness journey that brought about

I’m delighted to reassure The Way Out faithful that our beloved co-host Jason is back with a killer interview. It’s been a minute since we’ve heard from Jason, but rest assured Jason is still rocking his recovery. Fact is, Jason was on out on assignment, getting us some more powerful recovery stories such as this one with Author and person in long term recovery, Tommy Figlioli, otherwise known as Tommy Figs. Tommy shares his journey to and through recovery to this point including his life growing up in Brooklyn NY, and the "bumpy road" to recovery as he calls it. From a kid desperate to fit in and missing that all important male role model to near suicide and living the hard street life to finally surrendering, getting honest and finding meaningful and enduring recovery, Tommy’s story has it all. We also talk about his hardest challenge while living clean and what inspired him to write a memoir entitled That's What Junkies Do. There's a whole lot of heart and even more HOPE in this episode so listen up. Conta

In this edition of The Way Out we bring you an extraordinary interview I had the good fortune of having with The Recovery Guy, Robert Pardon, who just celebrated his 35th year of long-term recovery from alcoholism and addiction, and Hosts The Recovery Guy Podcast and is without question the genuine article. Roberts journey to and through recovery to this point is marked by profound feelings of inadequacy and not fitting in while in active addiction and alcoholism and using external substances and behaviors in an attempt to ameliorate this deep seeded pain, a feeling so many of us can deeply relate with. Robert’s recovery journey then, is consequently marked by meaningful connections to people in long term recovery who had something he desperately wanted – peace, serenity, and a level of contentment that demonstrates a recovery program well worked. There’s near limitless relatability to the internal and external adversity in Robert’s journey and the spiritual and recovery wisdom that emanates through his story

In this rendition of The Way Out we have an exceedingly revealing and illuminating discussion with renowned specialists and Authors on Love First Intervention, Jeff and Debra Jay. Both Jeff and Debra are in long term recovery in their own right, Jeff from addiction and alcoholism and Debra from the codependency and family side of recovery. Jeff’s owes his recovery and very life for that matter to a successful intervention, an experience that proved to be fateful indeed. Their experience in their own recovery journeys, combined with their subsequent professional experience in treating those with addiction and their families has culminated in a new model of addiction intervention that represents a true shift in what a traditional intervention looks like. A model that has been incredibly well laid in in the now Third Edition of their book Love First – A Family’s Guide to Intervention. I lieu of the often anger, threat, and ultimatum centric affair that aims to shame or scare the suffering addict or alcoholic int