Let Us Reason - A Christian/muslim Dialogue

By using John 20: 17 when Jesus is telling Mary after his resurrection to go and tell his disciples that he is ascending to his Father and their Father and his God and their God; muslims try to prove that Jesus and God are not the same . By doing that they are getting themselves into a dilemma with the Quran that denies that God is the Father and that Jesus is his son(Q 5:18 and 9:30). listen to Al Fadi as he explains this dilemma.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al Fadi discusses some of his facebook(Alfadi.cira)posts: 1. A series of test your Islamic knowledge:a. Show us the real name of Jesus in the Quran.b. What is tawheed?c. Alfatiha/ the opener. Is it a verse revealed by God or is it a part of the chapter?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Brother Sam Shamoun discusses with Al Fadi the Quran's dilemma that admits that Jesus is a Word from Allah(sura 3: 45), but refuses to admit its implications; as John 1:1 declares Jesus is the word of God; creator, eternal, and the means of God's communication to us.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Brother Sam Shamoun explains how Jesus is called the word of God and a spirit of Him in the Quran, yet the Quran denies Jesus' sonship and eternal existence. Using the Quran claims and the Bible to prove that Jesus is both uncreated and eternal.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Why do Muslims believe that Deuteronomy 18:18 talks about Muhammad? Answering-Islam.org gives detailed answers for that. We can not take a verse out of context we have to read the whole chapter. Jesus was the only one that fulfilled that prophecy. Muhammad also failed to fulfill the following verse in Deuteronomy 18:20 which makes him to be a false prophet.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Using the post on 7/11/2017 on facebook, Al Fadi discusses the Muslims' claim that Muhammad is mentioned in the Bible. What Quranic verses Muslim think refers to Muhammad mentioned in the Bible? What Bible verses do they use to prove their point? Does the Bible really mention Muhammad?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al shares about the new Youtube channel; https://www.youtube.com/cirainternational He continues to explain the post on facebook on 6/24 and 6/26/17 concerning the the Quranic dilemma of the different copies of the Quran and the different diacritical markings which gives the words different meaning depending on where do you put the markings. What century where these markings invented? How many copies of the Quran do we have today? Which one does the muslim claim is preserved in heaven?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Brother Sam Shamoun shares from Psalm 2 the fulfillment of the prophecy about the Messiah; the son of God; the king over all the nations and kings. We can not serve and honor God without honoring His Son. John 5:32-33, Daniel 7:13-14, and Mark 14:61-62 confirms Psalm 2. He also compares and contrasts what the Quran accepts and denies about the Messiah, Son of God, and Eternal King overall.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Continuation of what the Quran teaches about Christ. What does the Quran tell its followers to do if they have questions about the Bible? Does the Quran confirm that Jesus is the Messiah? Where? Does the Quran confirm the prophecy in Isaiah 9? The Quran contradicts itself by confirming some prophecies and denying others.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al Fadi asks challenging questions to muslims; Does the Hadeith say that God created Adam in His own image? Where does it say that? Did the Quran ask the angels to worship Adam? Where does it say that? Is the Quran really preserved in heaven? How many versions of the Quran is there?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

A continued disscussion about the muslim idiom translation with Pastor Adam . Are the producers of this translation honest about presenting it to the western society? What do they call the translation? How many versions of that translation is there? What does the translation call Jesus in Galatians 2: 20? does this translation ignore the distinction between God(Elohim) and Yahweh in the Old Testament?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Guest speaker Pastor Adam Simnowitz discusses the muslim idiom translation both the written book called cirat Al Masseih and the audio version called: Lives of the Prophets; "cirat al anbeya' in Arabic. This translation replaces God the Father with Lord and and son of God(Jesus) with Messiah. In order not to offend muslim people, they are compromising the truth of the trinity.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Another title the Quran uses for Jesus is The Christ. Muslims were instructed to ask the Jews and the Christians if they did not understand any details about Jesus. The old testament refers to Jesus as the eternal ruler(1 Chronicles 17:14): Messiah,son of David will be the Son of God. Psalm 2 talks about Jesus being the eternal King on all the earth over all the nations; Jesus is the begotten Son of God(spiritually).See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sam is using the Quran as a stepping stone to reach muslims like the apostle Paul did with the Greeks. The Quran says that Jesus created(Sora 3:49); since only God can create; therefore Jesus is God or God made Jesus His partner, which muslims call it shirk. Also the Quran says that Jesus spoke in the cradle(5:10).See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Al and John continue their discussion from last week. In 1991, David Owen wrote " Jesus movement in Islam". He created a false Jesus.The History of the Arabic Bible translation by John Brown supports this translation. What does the national believers say about the translation?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Guest speaker; John Span discuss with Al Fadi This translation. What is the purpose of it? Who is the person behind it? The article that discusses it: The Mother of Books, a case study of the cosequences a syminal idiom translation; by John span. What is the name of the translation?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Does the Quran call Jesus and His mother Mary sinless? If so, does that elevate them to a status of diety? Who was Muhammad trying to please by declaring that? According to the Quran who is sinless? Does the Quran contradict itself? Does the Quran call Muhammad sinless?See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sam Shamoun explains that chapter 3:39,45 in the Quran is about John the Baptist as the forerunner of God. Also chapter 4:171 in the Quran confirms the incarnation of Christ. On the other hand, there are verses in the Quran that deny basic truths we believe about Christ like his diety. Muslims say that these verses that point to the diety of Christ are not clear.www.cirainternational.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Sam Shamoun explains how Muhammad contradicted himself when he took some truths from christianity and rejected others. The Quran calls Jesus a spirit of God, a spirit from God, and a word of God; that means that he existed before he entered Mary's womb. Sounds like what the Bible calls the incarnation. "The word became flesh". The Quran elevates Jesus even above Muhammad, and says that jesus never became dust when he died.www.cirainternational.comwww.answeringislam.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Brother Sam Shamoun answers the questions: Is Mary mentioned in the Quran by name? Does the Quran believe in the virgin birth? Does the Quran say that both Jesus and Mary are sinless? Is Jesus the Messiah? Is Jesus the word of God or is he a word from God? Did jesus do miracles and create things? What does the Quran deny about Jesus?www.cirainternational.comwww.answeringislam.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.