Martech Podcast // Marketing + Technology = Business Growth

MarTech stack complexity is exploding despite consolidation predictions. Scott Brinker, VP of Platform Ecosystem at HubSpot and founder of chiefmartec.com, reveals why AI added 1,200 new vendors while eliminating just as many in 2025. He explains how agentic AI is shifting power from marketers to customers, breaking traditional sales playbooks as buyers use AI agents to research pricing and bypass controlled journeys. Brinker outlines context engineering as the evolution beyond prompt engineering, requiring marketers to bundle instructions, data access, and tool permissions for effective AI deployment.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

AI personalization crosses the line when customers can't understand why they're receiving specific treatments. Kathryn Rathje, Partner at McKinsey, explains how marketers often expose too much data instead of focusing on relevance. She discusses the value exchange principle for ethical personalization and why context matters more than data volume. The conversation covers dynamic billboard targeting, spectrum-based personalization approaches, and avoiding the "mad libs of data" trap that makes AI-driven outreach feel invasive rather than helpful.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Marketing leadership faces a critical skills gap in data-driven strategy execution. Kathryn Rathje, Partner at McKinsey's Growth, Marketing & Sales Practice, specializes in sustainable growth transformations for consumer brands. She discusses combining quantitative analytics with creative marketing approaches to deliver personalized customer value. The conversation covers data-driven marketing evolution since 2009 and frameworks for making marketing a strategic champion within organizations.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Marketing leaders are falling into shiny object syndrome instead of building systematic growth strategies. Kathryn Rathje, Partner at McKinsey's Growth, Marketing & Sales Practice, explains how to escape the pilot trap that's plaguing marketing organizations. She outlines a framework for rewiring marketing functions around data and AI fundamentals, distinguishes between one-way and two-way strategic decisions, and shares McKinsey's approach to creating scalable personalization workflows that drive measurable business value.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Marketing leadership struggles to bridge analytical and creative capabilities. Kathryn Rathje, partner at McKinsey's Growth, Marketing & Sales Practice, specializes in data-driven marketing transformations for consumer brands. She outlines how organizations can integrate quantitative analytics with creative strategy to deliver personalized customer value. The discussion covers practical frameworks for combining left-brain data analysis with right-brain creative execution to drive sustainable growth.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Marketing's leadership gap is widening across Fortune 500 companies. Kathryn Rathje, partner at McKinsey, reveals why only 66% of Fortune 500 companies retained CMOs last year and how marketing budgets dropped to 7.7% of revenue. She explains how CMOs can rebuild credibility by aligning metrics with CEO priorities, establishing clear ROI definitions with CFOs, and implementing full-funnel marketing measurement systems that connect brand investments to revenue outcomes.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

New creators struggle to choose the right platform for monetization. Danielle Pederson, CMO at Amaze, explains how authenticity-first content strategy drives revenue generation. She outlines building genuine audience connections before platform selection, then leveraging merchandise sales through custom product design and direct fan engagement to convert followers into paying customers.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Roblox represents an untapped communication platform where virtual merchandise drives real emotional value. Danielle Pederson, CMO at Amaze, explains how her company bridges digital and physical brand experiences through avatar customization. She discusses launching Amaze Digital Fits on Roblox, creating avatar clothing that can be printed as matching physical products, and leveraging gaming platforms as social connection hubs for younger audiences.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

CMOs face fragmented marketing spend across multiple brand portfolios. Danielle Pederson, CMO of Amaze, unified five creator-focused brands under one umbrella without losing individual brand equity. She implemented a phased taxonomy approach using "by Amaze" modifiers, consolidated three separate CRMs into HubSpot, and built a scalable architecture that allows new acquisitions to integrate immediately into the unified brand system.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

MarTech platforms fail when brands can't bridge digital and physical experiences. Danielle Pederson, CMO at Amaze, explains how virtual merchandise creates real emotional connections with younger audiences. She discusses launching Amaze Digital Fits on Roblox to let users dress avatars and purchase matching physical products. The strategy treats gaming platforms as communication channels rather than just entertainment, recognizing how Gen Z builds community through digital-first interactions.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Combining five creator brands into one unified platform creates customer confusion and fragmented marketing spend. Danielle Pederson, CMO of Amaze, led the consolidation of five distinct creator commerce solutions under one corporate umbrella without losing individual brand equity. She implemented a phased taxonomy approach using "by Amaze" modifiers, unified three separate CRMs into HubSpot, and created a scalable framework that allows new acquisitions to integrate immediately into the brand architecture.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Content strategy success hinges on three measurable outcomes. Benji Block, founder of Signature Series and former Executive Producer of B2B Growth podcast, breaks down the metrics that matter for B2B brands. He outlines a framework measuring click-through rates on thumbnails and titles, average view duration for consumption quality, and downstream engagement including comments, website visits, and real-world conversations that drive business results.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

B2B companies struggle to create content that actually drives business results. Benji Block, founder of Signature Series, has launched 50+ podcasts and generated millions of views helping brands build content strategies that work. He breaks down the three critical metrics that prove content effectiveness: meaningful comment engagement, high average view duration, and optimized click-through rates through A/B tested thumbnails. The discussion covers how to measure downstream business impact and create content that compiles engagement over time.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

B2B executives struggle to deliver quotable content in their first recording sessions. Benji Block, founder of Signature Series, shares proven techniques from launching 50+ podcasts and coaching 80+ leaders to become standout hosts. He recommends multiple takes to overcome initial nerves, identifying the strongest statement from the first attempt, then having executives lead with that hook in subsequent recordings. Block emphasizes that even expert communicators need encouragement and practice to deliver their best performance on camera.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

B2B content creators struggle to measure real impact beyond vanity metrics. Benji Block, founder of Signature Series and former host of B2B Growth podcast, shares his framework for evaluating content performance. He recommends tracking meaningful comments that spark conversations, monitoring average view duration to gauge content quality, and optimizing click-through rates through systematic thumbnail testing. The discussion covers how engagement metrics connect to business outcomes and the importance of measuring downstream effects like website visits and real-world conversations.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

B2B content creators struggle to measure real impact beyond vanity metrics. Benji Block, founder of Signature Series, shares his framework for building content that drives business results. He reveals his 11-question assessment for evaluating content effectiveness, explains how to optimize YouTube thumbnails through A/B testing, and outlines three core metrics that prove content strategy success: meaningful engagement through comments, high average view duration, and improved click-through rates.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Marketers rely too heavily on first-party data for AI strategy. Charlie Grinnell is Co-CEO of RightMetric, a strategic research firm specializing in external data intelligence for brands like Meta and Red Bull. His team built a video analyzer that maps frame-by-frame content against performance data to identify what keeps viewers engaged. The discussion covers automated networking agents and the critical importance of visual hooks in the first seconds of video content.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Marketers struggle with AI reliability and accuracy. Charlie Grinnell is Co-CEO of RightMetric, a strategic research firm specializing in external data intelligence for brands like Meta and Red Bull. He discusses building AI agents that automatically identify networking opportunities based on calendar events, creating video analysis tools that map viewer engagement to specific visual elements, and developing workflows that combine internal performance data with external market signals to reveal competitive blind spots marketers miss when relying solely on first-party dashboards.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Marketers struggle to build effective AI automation stacks that actually drive results. Charlie Grinnell, Co-CEO of RightMetric, explains how external data transforms AI accuracy and marketing strategy. The conversation covers building custom agents for networking automation, developing video analysis tools that map viewer engagement frame-by-frame, and creating visual hooks that compete with brands like MrBeast and Red Bull.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Marketers struggle with AI reliability and accuracy. Charlie Grinnell is Co-CEO of RightMetric, a strategic research firm specializing in external data intelligence for competitive marketing insights. The discussion covers treating AI as a "frenemy" that requires structured data inputs, building automation workflows through iterative testing, and validating AI outputs by asking it to explain its reasoning process.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.