De Balie Podcast

The Anthropic-case shows how interlinked tech companies and intelligence agencies are. With national security journalist Shane Harris we explore mass surveillance, cyberwarfare and the shifting balance of power in a changing world order. Tech company Anthropic (known for chatbot Claude) made headlines because they refuse to allow their AI models to be used by the Pentagon for mass surveillance of American citizens and autonomous weapons systems. OpenAI, led by Sam Altman, has no problem with that and is supplying the technology to the U.S. government that Anthropic (for now) refused. Meanwhile Anthropic has been sanctioned by Donald Trump.Tech moguls have become essential partners in national security. With American journalist Shane Harris, we ask what role technology companies play in the modern security apparatus. How is cyberwarfare reshaping the global balance of power? And what are the implications for privacy, civil rights and democratic governance in the years ahead?About Shane