De Balie Podcast

The international world order is being shaken up, and Europe’s place at the new table is far from certain. Russia’s war against Ukraine continues unabated. What security strategy should Europe pursue?Last year, the NATO allies agreed in The Hague to spend 3.5 percent of their GDP on direct defence expenditure. What does that mean in practice? Will Europe succeed in overcoming national interests, fragmented production, and slow coordination? Will Europe be able to defend Ukraine?Together with Justyna Gotkowska, Deputy Director and Head of the Security and Defence Department at the OSW Centre for Eastern Studies based in Warsaw, we examine Europe’s security from the perspective of those closest to Russia’s war and its long-term consequences and her four-point plan for Ukraine, which offers a potential European counterstrategy in response to Russian ‘peace’ proposals. She is joined in conversation by Alex Krijger and Nikki Sterkenburg.Information wars: about this series With this three-part programme series, whi