De Balie Podcast

Two authors write about the destruction of Gaza, each from their own perspective. She, as a Gazan journalist in exile; he, as a Jewish Dutchman. At De Balie, Rita Baroud and Maurits de Bruijn engage in conversation. How do you write about indescribable genocidal violence?There was a time when Maurits de Bruijn (1984) imagined himself living in Israel, a vibrant, multicultural country where he could reconnect with his Jewish roots, severed by the Holocaust. But that affection cooled when De Bruijn was confronted with the other side of the country: the oppression of the Palestinians. He began to speak out against the violence committed in the name of Jewish security. For his latest book, Geweten (Conscience), he returned to Israel and Palestine to see for himself how things stand, to talk to people directly, and to possibly revise his judgment.Journalist – and until October 2023, a student of French – Rita Baroud (2002) lived through the devastating war in Gaza. For international media outlets, includ