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This week we talk about career paths and Kevin gets into his experience managing managers. Sponsors Play: The first native iOS design tool built for creating mobile products. Design, iterate, and collaborate directly from your phone. Use this link to get early access. Show Notes Kevin's app design in PlayI don't like coffee. Can James Hoffmann change that?Spot the differences: Layout's "new" websiteRecommendations Shadow Palette GeneratorRiveo Hosts Kevin Clark (@vernalkick) Rafael Conde (@rafahari)