Making Data Simple

Send us Fan MailCraig McLuckie is the Founder and CEO of Stacklok and one of the original inventors of Kubernetes — the open-source container orchestration system that became the backbone of modern cloud infrastructure. After leading Kubernetes into the CNCF and navigating VMware's pivot under Broadcom, Craig made a sharp turn and founded Stacklok: an Enterprise MCP Platform designed to make developers and AI agents dramatically more productive in secure, enterprise environments.In this episode, Craig and Al Martin explore what it means to build again after building something that changed the industry — and what the next wave of enterprise AI infrastructure actually requires.In this episode:01:14 Meet Craig McLuckie — background, Kubernetes origins10:08 Tanzu and Broadcom — what that chapter looked like from the inside11:28 Stacklok and the Big Pivot — why MCP, why now19:57 I Don't Know! — a rare founder moment of intellectual honesty21:32 Success is a Poor Teacher — what winning can hide from you23