Make It Happen Mondays - B2b Sales Talk With John Barrows

Most startups obsess over growth. Very few actually understand when scaling makes sense—and when it doesn’t.In this episode, John talks with Mark Roberge about the real science behind building and scaling a company. They unpack the myths around product-market fit, the ethical decision point every salesperson faces, and why revenue alone can be a dangerously misleading signal for founders.If you're building, selling, or leading a team, this conversation will challenge how you think about growth, customer value, and the future of sales in an AI-driven world.Ready to sharpen your sales skills and stay relevant in a rapidly changing market? Head over to www.jbarrows.com and keep learning how to Make It Happen.What You’ll LearnWhy revenue isn’t product-market fitThe ethical decision point in salesWhy retention beats new revenueThe role of a customer success matrixHow AI may reshape sales careersMark Roberge is the founding CRO of HubSpot, where he scaled revenue from zero to over $100M and helped take the company