Gut + Science - Real Talk With Ceos On Culture, Data, And Decision-making

If your company treats technology like the hero and people like the afterthought, it may not survive the next decade. Nikki sits down with Ferry Hoes, founder of Brand Humanizing, to challenge the way leaders think about AI, automation, and innovation. Ferry shares a bold warning: organizations that fail to align humans and technology will quietly lose their people and their customers. Through personal stories of watching a chatbot replace real connection and sink a business, he unpacks why meaningful work and human trust still drive performance. From task forces to tech integration mistakes to companies that get it right, this conversation is a masterclass for people-first leaders who want innovation that supports humans, not sidelines them. If you care about culture, customer loyalty, and long-term growth, this one will shift your lens.