Its Up There Podcast

Dr Umar Johnson sits with Loon to talk Candace Owens, Deion Sanders, Shedeur Sanders, the Target boycott, Trump’s DEI rollbacks, racist GoFundMe rules and the Times Square Black woman statue in Hour 3. In this clip, Umar breaks down why boycotting Target and running to Costco isn’t Black power if we don’t own anything, how DEI got gutted under Trump, and why directing Black dollars without Black ownership is just “rearranging the plantation.” He walks Loon through Rodney Hinton, Luigi Maloney and the viral white woman who made a million dollars off a racist rant—using those cases to show how GoFundMe will happily fund white violence while shutting down Black causes and even his own school campaign. Umar calls it “digital segregation” in real time, not a glitch in the system. From there they zoom in on symbolism: the casual, unemployed-looking Black woman statue in Times Square. Umar argues that in the richest business district in America, choosing that image to