Wallbuilders Live! With David Barton & Rick Green

When the ground moves under your feet, what do you hold onto? We sit down with Pastor Alan Jackson at the Pro Family Legislators Conference to tackle a hard but hopeful thesis: the church is meant to shape culture, not drift behind it. With candor and care, we revisit how faith retreated from boardrooms, classrooms, and civic life—and why that retreat let rival worldviews set the terms. This isn’t a partisan rant; it’s a call to bring a clear, biblical worldview back into public conversations about marriage, family, authority, and moral courage.We trace the inflection points that changed the landscape. COVID didn’t just close buildings; it exposed foundations and cracked our trust in institutions that asked for deference while shifting standards. Hebrews 12 reframes the moment as a shaking—painful, yes, but purifying—so what cannot be shaken remains. Jesus’ image of birth pains adds urgency: intensity and frequency rise as delivery nears. That perspective moves us away from escapism and toward readiness, trai