Let's Talk Calmly About Security and Privacy

Clay is the author of several books on Internet society, including "Here Comes Everybody" and "Cognitive Surplus." I chose him for the first episode because he's good at reviewing problems as an objective third party. In this discussion, we talk about 9/11 as a criminal act vs an act of war; the militarization of police power in small American towns; and why it's dangerous for the NSA to have all this data ("It's not because anybody at the NSA cares what I'm doing.")